HOW I PROVED TO MY FORMER PASTOR THAT I WAS A LOST CAUSE WITH A SINGLE MEETING
And he meeting wasn't even that long, less than an hour. He thought he could bully me, and I just say whatever the hell I want to, so that didn't work.
- •VegetarianismFor some reason, he had an issue with me being a vegetarian. "Animals are here for us to eat." Um, that doesn't mean I have to eat them. Like even if you don't agree with something, me not eating meat is not indicative of anything negative in me. I just rolled my eyes because seriously, get over it.
- •Labor unionsHe thought that the pulpit was the place to talk about things not related to Christianity, such as how labor unions are ruining the country. Because my parents are retired General Motors employees, I am very pro-union. I guess he has an issue with workers being treated fairly.
- •Music/dancing/moviesHe would also talk about how we shouldn't A) dance, B) listen to anything other than hymns, or C) go to the movies. His reasons were murky at best and not Biblically based, and I called him out on that. He didn't like that. I told him, "Well I don't dance, but if I want to, I'm going to. Also I'm going to keep going to the movies and listening to regular non-hymnal music." He didn't like that either.
- •Not wanting to talk to himBecause of the two above mentioned things (plus other shit he'd "preach" about that he shouldn't have been because they weren't Biblical), I would often walk right past him when he would shake people's hands by the door after the sermon. "Sometimes I get the impression you don't want to talk to me." "Sometimes I don't." Then I told him why I thought a lot of what he talked about at the pulpit was inappropriate. Another thing he didn't like. I don't think he expected my honesty.
- •AbortionSomehow abortion came up, and I told him I'm pro-choice. By that point I was fired up, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it because I knew it would get me a lecture (and it did). I also said that whether or not we agree with it is moot because neither of us are women. He went on about the values of America, and I just rolled my eyes because of course abortion is the root of all bad things in this country.
- •Planned ParenthoodThis segued into a discussion about Planned Parenthood, which he bashed of course. If this happened today, I would have retorted with something about how he must not value women and then would have told him all the non-abortion things they do for women there. Alas, I just reiterated that I support a woman's right to choose and that it doesn't really matter what either of us thinks anyway.
- •Gay marriageI told him I supported it. He was absolutely flabbergasted. I said, "Why shouldn't everyone be happy?" I don't think he knew how to respond to that.
- •Hillary ClintonThis was when the primaries were going back in 2008 (man, has it really been that long?), and I told him I'm a democrat and that I was voting for her (which I did), and then I told him why. By this point, I think he was pretty irritated with me because he was really surly with his responses to me. He went on about how she'll ruin America.
- •TattoosI have a lot of tattoos. I had less back then, but I still had them, and he decided to chide me for getting them and implying that this was a mark of immaturity. I then proceeded to tell him that I used to have my lip pierced and was thinking of getting it again, and I asked him what he thought about that because I knew he wouldn't like it (he didn't).
- •Despite all we talked about, the meeting was less than an hour long. He had apparently given up on me pretty quickly.He was used to bullying people around and getting them to comply, and I don't think he was used to anyone being so defiant, especially a 21 year old kid. He didn't like when people could think for themselves.
- •This is not an anti-church list in the slightest.I no longer go to a church, but my parents do (just a different one, and they're nice enough there). It's just about finding the right fit I guess...in theory. I think I'm far too liberal for most churches to be honest.
- •This list seemed much more dramatic in my head.